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- Technology Stack
- Why?
- What?
- tl;dr
- Recommended Reading
As a team of people
using technology
to make digital products,
it's essential to be unambiguous
about the stack/tools we use,
so that everyone is clear
what we all need to
master.
If anything is unclear or you have any questions please ask.
We are always happy to answer tech stack related questions.
Please make sure you read the whole doc first.
This document + diagrams describe
the full PETAL Technology Stack
we use for dwyl products/projects.
Each element in our stack was carefully selected based
on its individual merits.
When assembled into a seamless machine,
the stack is unrivaled for developer effectiveness
and world-class reliability!
PETAL is an acronym
for the following elements:
- Phoenix - the Web App framework that organizes routes, schemas, controllers and tests logically.
- Elixir - the functional fault-tolerant programming language that is a joy to work with.
- Tailwind - the interface library for building beautiful mobile-first & responsive web apps that feel fast and are easy to extend. With hundreds of templates & examples.
- Alpine.js - the tiny effects and enhancements
JavaScriptlibrary that loads fast and progressively enhances the user experience. This is 100% optional, apps work fine without it. - LiveView - the system that significantly simplifies creating interfaces that update in real-time whenever a change is made by anyone else.
Let's go through each of these in a bit more detail.
Phoenix is the Web Application Framework
that does not compromise.
Phoenix is the successor
to the incredibly popular
Ruby-on-Rails
framework
(commonly referred to as Rails).
That was used by many startups and successful companies
e.g: AirBnB, GitHub, Shopify and Twitter
(most of which have migrated away from Rails for scalability reasons).
Phoenix was built from scratch
by highly experienced engineers
who worked on/with Rails.
It solves
all of the speed/socket/scaling/concurrency issues
people felt when building/using Rails apps.
The list of benefits Phoenix has over
(virtually every) other Web Frameworks is extensive.
See:
dwyl/learn-phoenix-framework#our-top-10-reasons-why-phoenix
Phoenix tops the list of "Most Loved" Frameworks
for the 3rd year in a row
on the
2025 StackOverflow Developer Survey. β€οΈ
This is not a popularity contest; the votes are private/confidential. When software engineering community collectively votes that a framework is their "most loved", you know that they love using it.
Elixir is the functional programming language
used by the Phoenix framework.
Elixir is a beautiful language
written from scratch to be
friendly, concise and efficient.
What this means is that you can write
elegant expressive programs
that achieve impressive results with fewer words.
And because it's functional (with immutable data),
it's considerably easier to follow the logic
even when reading someone else's code
or your own you're returning to after a few years.
Yes, Elixir not as
"mainstream"
as JavaScript, Java, C# or Python,
but the adoption is growing rapidly and most importantly
many experienced engineers are gravitating towards and
describing it as their
"most wanted"
Also a language's popularity has more
to do with the intellectual inertia people/companies have because
they allow existing (legacy) codebases to dictate future development;
i.e.
sunk cost bias.
see:
dwyl/learn-elixir#key-advantages
For the 3rd year running,
Elixir is the 3rd
"Most Loved" programming language in the world:
survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology/#2-programming-scripting
First appeared on: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#section-most-loved-dreaded-and-wanted-programming-scripting-and-markup-languages
This is a good measure of how much people enjoy working in the language. And as we all know people who enjoy their work are better at doing it!
Note: The 2026 StackOverflow Survey will be released later this year, we will update this repo accordingly.
Tailwind is the most sane way
of creating a beautiful web app UI
that can easily be extended by a team of people
without fear of one person's change "breaking" another feature.
Unlike "traditional" CSS which - as it's name implies - encourages
"cascading" of styles, Tailwind
makes the style of each component specific
and local to that component.
see:
dwyl/learn-tailwind
We paid for a license for Tailwind Plus: tailwindcss.com/plus It has hundreds of carefully crafted UI templates that can easily be customized.
Alpine.js is a lightweight library
for enhancing interactions in a web application.
It's declarative, responsive and easy to learn.
Alphine.js plays well with LiveView for
progressive enhancements.
see:
dwyl/learn-alpine.js
alpine.min.js @ 3.13.8 is 41 Kb uncompressed.
When delivered over a network (minified + gzipped),
the size footprint drops down to roughly 14 KB.
This means it loads in under 200ms (1/5 second)
even on a slower 3G connection.
For a concrete example of how we are using Alpine.js,
read:
app.js
it handles the drag-and-drop and effects in the MVP.
This is fully documented in:
/drag-and-drop.md
LiveView is a radically simplified way
of building realtime web apps
with significantly less code.
Phoenix + LiveView allows us
to build rich interactive web apps
with realtime reactive UI
(no page refresh when data updates)
without writing JavaScript!
This enables building
incredible interactive experiences
in less time and
with considerably less code.
For more detail, on the "Why? What? How?" of LiveView,
please see:
dwyl/phoenix-liveview-counter-tutorial#liveview
Note: We only use
LiveViewwhere appropriate to the desired UI/UX; it's not a shiny object we must use everywhere. If live updates are not needed e.g: inAuthorPaymentflows we use server-side rendered controllers with bare minimum client-side validation.
We have crafted a "Complete Beginner's Guide" for each element in the stack, so that we:
-
Document our collective learning
whilewe are building projects.
(because as humans we forget fast unless we capture it immediately!) -
Share our knowledge with other people so we can:
- Help to train (potential) new team members as quickly/effectively as possible.
- Collectively iterate on our knowledge and "level-up" as a team!
- "Onboard" the client team (who may want/need) to support/maintain the codebase/project if/when we seamlessly "hand over".
- Inform the wider community of both technical and non-technical people ("stake holders") who are generally interested in understanding the project.
- Enlighten other teams/organizations/agencies/etc. we aren't in direct contact with that there is a "more fun" way of building software!
- Make everyone's life easier/better by having a "launch pad" for rapid learning!
We have written several beginner tutorials that span our technology stack and tools we actively use in development.
A few of our learning repositories
specific to Phoenix and Phoenix Liveview.
- Learn
Elixir: dwyl/learn-elixir - Learn
Phoenix: dwyl/learn-phoenix-framework - Counter (
LiveView): dwyl/phoenix-liveview-counter-tutorial - Chat (
Phoenix+Channels): dwyl/phoenix-chat-example - Todo List (
LiveView): dwyl/phoenix-liveview-todo-list-tutorial - Stopwatch (
LiveView): dwyl/phoenix-liveview-stopwatch - Chat (
LiveView): dwyl/phoenix-liveview-chat-example - Realtime cursor tracking (
LiveView): dwyl/phoenix-liveview-realtime-cursor-tracking-tutorial PapertrailandPhoenix: dwyl/phoenix-papertrail-demoFlutterandPhoenix: dwyl/flutter-phoenix-channels-demo
We have a couple of "internal" (but Open Source) projects
that use Phoenix
and serve as a good showcase for the stack:
- Hits: dwyl/hits π
- Image Uploads: dwyl/imgup πΌοΈ
- Labels: dwyl/labels π·οΈ
Along our journey building apps for clients and ourselves, we've created a few reusable packages:
fields: dwyl/fields - field definitions with validation and transparent encryption/decryption.useful: dwyl/useful - utility library.content: dwyl/content - content negotiation.link: dwyl/link - parse, shorten and format links.auth_plug: dwyl/auth_plug - seamlessly add authentication to any Phoenix App.
All the code we write is extensively documented,
comprehensively tested and regularly maintained (where required).
One of the many beauties of Elixir code
is that it requires very low maintenance;
it just keeps working year after year.
We are using Flutter for our Native Mobile App.
See: /flutter.md
Along the way
we've created several learning resources for Flutter
and how to use it with other technologies:
- Learn
Flutter: dwyl/learn-flutter - Learn
Dart: dwyl/learn-dart - Counter: dwyl/flutter-counter-example
- Stopwatch: dwyl/flutter-stopwatch-tutorial
- Todo list: dwyl/flutter-todo-list-tutorial
Bloc: dwyl/flutter-bloc-tutorialSupabaseandFlutter: dwyl/supabase-flutter-demo
In this section,
we will list a few repos that explain
concepts and tools that we are actively using
while developing our app.
- Payment processing: dwyl/learn-payment-processing
- API design: dwyl/learn-api-design
- Test-driven development dwyl/learn-tdd
InsomniaAPI client: dwyl/learn-insomniaGithub Pagesdeployment: dwyl/learn-github-pages
We have built a working MVP version of our App! Check it out at dwyl/mvp! π±
The reason we do not specify our Database
in the PETAL acronym is
that Phoenix abstracts its'
database access via
Ecto
to provide built-in support
to the following databases:
PostgreSQL(viapostgrex)MySQL(viamyxql)MSSQL(viatds)ETS(viaetso)SQLite3(viaecto_sqlite3)
By abstracting the data layer
using Ecto the application is "decoupled"
from the database.
This means that if a client asks us to deploy to MySQL or
Microsoft SQL Server
(e.g. because they already have in-house capability
for maintaining one of these databases)
we can easily accommodate that
without re-writing any of the Phoenix app!
Changing a couple of lines of configuration
is all that is needed.
Our "standard" (preferred) DB @dwyl is Postgres.
see:
dwyl/learn-postgresql π
Postgres is the most "mature" Open Source Relational Database.
It's 100% Free (including all "advanced" features)
and has been deployed and battle-tested in every environment
from AWS to "Bare Metal" and Google Cloud to Microsoft Azure!
Many well-known/successful apps rely on
Postgresas theirmaindatabase.
NOT that you should adopt a particular technology based on whoelseis using it,
but it's good to know that plenty of teams are getting excellent results withPostgres!
See: List of Organizations Using PostgreSQL
We have used most of the "popular" Relational Databases.
e.g: MySQL, Microsoft SQL Server,
Oracle and Aurora, etc;
all
RDBMS
have their pros/cons.
The reason we like/use Postgres
is because the community is superb.
There is a great "bank" of answered questions on
StackOverflow
and new questions get answered fast.
From 2023 to 2025 Postgres has remained
the most used and most desired Database:
survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology#2-databases
46.5% of respondants use Postgres
more than double MySQL (20.5%).
A "traditional"
LAMP stack
includes the Linux Operating System
in the name.
The "PETAL" stack runs
on any (desktop/server) Operating System
and can be deployed to any "cloud" infrastructure provider.
While we have a strong preference
for Unix (e.g. OpenBSD) or
Linux (e.g. Ubuntu or CentOS) we know that
both Phoenix and Postgres run
on almost any environment including
Microsoft Windows Desktop & Server.
We typically deploy our Phoenix Apps using Ubuntu + Docker.
We are using
GitHub actions
for
Continuous Integration
&
Deployment/Delivery.
It's free/included with GitHub
and easily meets our needs.
For an example of this,
including automatic deployment to Fly.io
see:
.github/workflows/ci.yml
We have used other continuous integration platforms in the past
and at the request of clients,
e.g:
GitLab,
Travis-CI,
Circle-CI
or self-hosted Jenkins.
We can easily adapt to the needs of the project.
We make a point of deploying our work as soon as there is something worth showing to the target audience of "end users" so that we can get feedback as early as possible.
Lately we have been using Fly.io for deploying our Apps. The experience is superb. β€οΈ
We have used every major Cloud infrastructure provider
over the last nearly 2 decades
starting with AWS in 2009.
Over the years we have captured much of our knowledge
public repos e.g:
dwyl/learn-devops
and
dwyl/learn-aws-lambda
Many people have found our notes helpful.
The Phoenix Application Server is hosted on (a minimum of)
Two Servers.
(often many more which send messages
one another to distribute load as a cluster).
The "cluster" is managed by Erlang's "Supervisor".
The
Erlang Supervisor
is the "Gold Standard" in infrastructure management,
having been used by Telecoms companies
for over 20 years in production
with some Telcos reporting 99.9999999%
("nine nines") of "up-time".
It's far more likely that the infrastructure provider (e.g. AWS/Azure) will have a fault in their network/datacenter than an Erlang server "crashing". An individual request/process may crash but never the whole server.
All communication is over secure/encrypted channel
(by default at all times)
to protect the data/privacy
of people using the applications we make.
We recommend using the Let's Encrypt service for SSL Certificates
it's 100% Free
(and provided by a Non-Profit foundation)
to help you get started, we wrote a
step-by-step setup guide for apps deployed to any infrastructure:
/letsencrypt-wildcard-certificate.md
There is no shortage of options available for
Technology Stack!
See:
google.com/search?q=technology+stack
So, how did we arrive at the conclusion that PETAL
was "the one" for us...?
We already had a really good
Node.js Stack
which worked well for us and our clients. so . . .
Our reasoning for
considering an alternative approach/stack for building web apps
was fueled by our
curiousity
and
"shoshin".
"The important thing is not to stop questioning.
Curiosity has its own reason for existence."
~ Albert Einstein
In November 2016 we (once again)
questioned our assumptions,
re-examined and
surveyed
the "landscape" of "emerging trends" in web app development.
We were pleasantly surprised delighted to see the amazing progress
made by the people in the Elixir / Phoenix community!
Please see:
dwyl/learn-phoenix-framework#questions
One of the most "difficult decisions" you will make in your "career" is which technologies and tools you will use to deliver the desired solution/benefit to the "end users".
Most people have the Tech/Tools decision made for them
by the company/organization/boss they work for
(e.g: Java -> Spring,
Ruby -> Rails
or PHP -> WordPress or Laravel, etc.)
This is because most companies
already have an existing app in "production",
which you have been hired to extend.
Occasionally you will get the chance
to build an app from "scratch"
however most of the time someone else (the "Architect")
will make the decision for what "stack" to use on your behalf,
so you will still be stuck with someone else's choices.
If you are incredibly lucky the "Architect(s)"
will have done their homework: surveyed the latest industry
trends and investigated the "new and promising" technologies
e.g: Stack Overflow
"Most Wanted" list.
-
Stick with what you (already) know, use existing stack with a minor variation because it's "easy to deploy" with the existing infrastructure and will not get questioned by the "Executives", DevOps team or "Compliance" department. This is the easy choice and nobody ever got "fired" for sticking with what they know "works".
-
Buy the whizz-bang all-in-one solution sold to them by the "Consultant" from "Big Vendor XYZ"; this can feel like a safe option, but it results in vendor lock-in.
-
Be Bold and try "Popular Framework XYZ" and hire an external team to build the new magic app. Then attempt to "up-skill" the internal team to maintain the code written by the consultants.
None of these choices is optimal, all have different levels of risk/reward. The "hardest" choice to make is the one where you try something totally different. The reality is that very few people have the time/resources/mindset/inclination to take a step back and open their minds to the idea that there might be a "better tool" for the job than the one they are currently using.
Imagine Want to Make Yourself Some Toast.
The "user story" for this would be:
As apeckish person
I wanta slice of tasty toast
So thatI can have some crunch for my brunch!
( let's assume that you bought a loaf of bread from a baker
to reduce the options for solutions for simplicity
i.e. not baking from scratch! )
The "traditional" way to "solve"
the challenge of making toast:
- Cut bread with bread knife
- Put sliced bread in toaster
- Turn on toaster for pre-determined amount of time
- Wait patiently for toaster to make toast
But ... what if instead the "old" way we just described,
someone invented a way
to toast the bread while slicing it...?!
Simply by using the "New Tool" for the job -
in this case the
"Toast Knife" -
you can
simplify the process to a single step!
This is the power of being open to considering "New" Tools/Technologies!
Get the same result in fewer than half the "steps"!
The short-term cost of learning a new stack (programming language or framework) is time, We contend that the 1 week learning time (depending on the focus of learners) will pay for itself within 1 month (often sooner if the team is large/distributed because the structure offered by Phoenix means everyone working on the project has a disciplined approach to adding new features)
- https://hbr.org/2012/08/thinking-long-term-in-a-short
- https://hbr.org/2011/03/capitalism-for-the-long-term
In 1996 Nokia introduced the
"Communicator"
and was a incredible revolutionary innovation!
Internet, Email and Fax in your Pocket!!
Nokia continued to dominate the mobile phone industry/market for the next
decade producing the best-selling
5110
and
3310
some of us are old enough to remember!
But by being "ahead" Nokia was unable to see the "contender"
coming "out of nowhere" to challenge their position.
In 2006 nobody was making/buying "smart" mobile phones
with glass touch screens that ran "apps" ...
in
January 2007 Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone
and literally changed the industry!
The dominant/incumbent mobile phone maker Nokia had
49% market share in 2007
mocked Apple's lack of features, poor battery life and high price.
By 2013 Nokia had 3% Market Share (for new device sales)
and was sold off "for parts" to Microsoft
while Apple became the
most valuable company
in history!
Many people still buy "feature phones" (the polite name for a device that does not have any "smart" functionality!)
but few people can convincingly argue that the reason they don't have a smart phone is because they don't want one;
over 90% 16-24 year olds own a smart phone and that number is expected to reach 100% by 2025 ...
ask someone in their 20's if they would go "back" to using a non-smart phone and see what they say ... "No Way!!"
they laugh uncomfortably and admit that: "My Smartphone is my Life!"
We feel exactly the same about "old technology". Sure the "old way still works", but if you can inexpensively switch
to something demonstrably better in every aspect, why would you stick with the "feature phone" of web frameworks...?
It's like taking the Bus to work when there's a perfectly good teleporter right next to the bus stop!! Madness.
We are not suggesting that everyone is going to suddenly flock to the "PETAL" stack the way people adopted smart phones. This is merely an illustration that when a technology has a specific/measurable advantage to it's users the adoption can be fast.
In the case of programming languages or application frameworks, moving one framework to another is a much more difficult decision.
But one thing is for sure we are going to use the "smart phone" even if other people insist on using the "brick".
The good news is that
Phoenix "scales" really well!
see:
phoenixframework.org/blog/the-road-to-2-million-websocket-connections
This post was published in 2015
and was one of the catlysts
that made us pay attention to Elixir and Phoenix.
We had been building apps with Node.js
(what we refer to as our "legacy stack")
since 2009 and deployment/scalability was always a chore.
Seeing that a single Phoenix server
could handle 2 Million Concurrent Connections
was an eye-opener that made us immediately try Elixir.
Highly recommend watching Joe Armstrong's talk for a balanced primer on scalability: "Systems that run forever self-heal and scale": youtu.be/cNICGEwmXLU
Yes, scalability and especially fault tolerance is important.
And Phoenix has your back with all of the above.
It lets you focus on User Experience
and rest assured that scalability is baked-in.
If you are new to building web apps,
please focus on UX
and forget about "scale"!
Focus all of your energy on crafting beautifully functional UI/UX that gives the person using your App their desired outcome in as few steps as possible.
The sad reality is that most startups fail before they achieve product-market fit. Of those that "make it", most will end up re-building their App(s) as they refine the UX over time.
So focus on moving fast and building well-tested features.
Unless you work somewhere that already has millions of users (e.g. Big Tech) and your team cannot consider anything that does not support a million concurrent connections ...
Most people have imaginary scaling issues not real ones.
discussing "scalability"beforeyou have 100K paying customers is a waste of time!!
Stop wasting your time worrying about "scalability"
and instead focus on building the useful features
that people are requesting.
Forget about "scaling" until you have
made something people want
and are paying for to solve their immediate pain!
Once you have a few thousand paying "users",
use the pile of cash you got from your product
to hire experienced engineers
to make it available to more people!
We still think that
"Full Stack JavaScript"
is a compelling proposition
especially for people who are just starting out!
It allows you to write one programming language
on both the client and server; we get it!
However we have learned from years of experience
that it requires a lot more code and maintenance
than PETAL for an inferior result
in terms of UX/performance and developer productivity.
If we were to consider an alternative to SQL, we
would use RethinkDB:
rethinkdb.com
But we are relieved that the Phoenix team
is focussed on Postgres because that eliminates
the "ambiguity" or "discussion" of "which database" to use!
Postgres is a fantastic "general purpose"
db that has a rich ("structured") query language
that lets you JOIN data!!
Also, now that Citus DB is fully Open Source
we know that Postgres
can easily handle billions of writes per day.
See:
citusdata.com
βIf it takes an hour to figure out whatβs going on, well,
thatβs an hour that wasnβt spent doing something else more useful and interesting."
~ Rachel Kroll
Please read:
https://www.radicalsimpli.city
In the site/manifesto
Stephan
makes the case that Apps
have gotten far too complex:
Note: the "Complexity 2021" is just the year when complex Single Page Apps (SPAs) reached the fever pitch Many people were using the
Reacthammer to build slow-loading apps with complex architectures. Thankfully, many people/teams have realized that it's a poor UX and moved away from it now.
He advocates for a return to basics:
No need for microservices message queues or other
complex tech that is only relevant to 0.1% of mega scale companies:

We agree.
If by some luck our product reaches the point where
we need mega scale
(millions of people creating billions of items)
we know that our chosen stack will scale just fine.
Before then the complexity will only slow us down and reduce the chances of success.
We have written extensively about our choice of programming language in: learn-elixir#102.
Our use of Elixir is for a very specific reason:
we are building fault-tolerant realtime systems.
For the type of App we are building,
Erlang/OTP is the undisputed king
on the server side.
We could use almost any other language/framework, but it would be a lot more work for an inferior result.
If we need to build a specific feature requested by a person using our product/service, then we will 100% consider a technology that enables us to deliver it.
The way to propose a specific tech/tool is simple: open an issue describe how the tech/tool will help us build a specific feature that has been requested by a person using our product.
Proactively create a new repo
in the dwyl org
to capture your own learning
of the tech/tool you are proposing.
e.g:
dwyl?q=learn
Once you have invested the time
to learn the tech/tool beyond "hello world"
and are confident that it will help us
achieve a specific end-goal,
then please make the case for it.
This thread on Hacker News (with 723 comments) converges on the "PETAL" stack: "Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34530052 It's from 2023 but is still 100% relevant. If anything the JS ecosystem is even more fragmented and the non-Elixir frameworks haven't caught-up to Phoenix which just keeps getting better with each new release.
For a good primer on Faults, Scaling, and Erlang Concurrency watch Joe Armstrong's Stanford Seminar: youtu.be/YaUPdgtUYko









